In this podcast episode, Gordon Lamphere dives deep into the complexities and opportunities of the industrial real estate market with Matthew Rossman, a leading expert in the field and a key figure at Bryan Industrial Properties. Together, they explore the intricacies of managing and investing in industrial spaces, focusing on California’s Inland Empire. This conversation is packed with valuable insights on navigating the challenges of this dynamic market, understanding the nuances of Class B industrial properties, and how strategic management can turn these assets into long-term, stable investments.
The Inland Empire is one of the most important hubs for industrial real estate in the United States, thanks to its strategic location near major transportation routes like the Ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach. This makes it a prime location for distribution and logistics companies that rely on fast and efficient transportation to move goods across the country. According to Matthew Rossman, Bryan Industrial Properties has been actively investing in this region, capitalizing on the high demand for industrial space from businesses needing close proximity to these transportation hubs.
Rossman explains that while the Inland Empire is a key market for industrial real estate, it’s also a highly competitive one. Industrial vacancies are low, and rent prices have been on the rise, making it essential for investors to act strategically. Furthermore, Rossman emphasizes the importance of understanding the regulatory landscape of California, which can be a significant hurdle for real estate developers. Navigating these regulations requires experience and foresight, but the rewards are substantial for those who can manage the process effectively.
One of the main topics in the discussion was the investment potential of Class B industrial properties. While Class A properties—modern buildings with top-tier features—are often the focus of investors, Class B properties represent a more accessible and stable option for those looking for long-term, reliable returns. Rossman and Bryan Industrial Properties have specialized in Class B industrial spaces, believing in their resilience, especially during economic downturns.
“Class B properties are often overlooked,” says Rossman, “but they offer stable cash flow and tend to have longer tenant retention, especially when compared to Class A properties. These spaces may not have all the bells and whistles, but they serve a critical function for businesses that need reliable, cost-effective solutions.” He highlights how Bryan Industrial Properties focuses on building strong tenant relationships in their Class B properties, which is key to retaining tenants and minimizing turnover.
The podcast dives deep into the differences between managing Class A and Class B industrial properties. While Class A properties are typically leased by high-end clients with specific needs, Class B properties cater to a broader range of businesses. According to Rossman, managing Class B industrial spaces requires a hands-on approach and a keen understanding of the tenants’ business operations. Flexibility and customization are key to ensuring that these properties meet the unique needs of their tenants.
Rossman also touches on the importance of tenant relationships. For Bryan Industrial Properties, tenant retention is a priority, and they achieve this by being attentive to tenant needs and customizing spaces to fit their business operations. “In Class B industrial properties, a strong tenant relationship can make all the difference,” Rossman says. “You have to be willing to work with tenants on everything from lease terms to space modifications. It’s about creating an environment where they can succeed and, in turn, stay long-term.”
In the competitive world of industrial real estate, securing long-term leases and minimizing risk is crucial. Rossman emphasizes the importance of incorporating personal guarantees in lease agreements, especially when dealing with Class B industrial properties. These guarantees provide an added layer of security, ensuring that tenants are committed to fulfilling their lease obligations. This practice is especially important in markets like the Inland Empire, where tenant turnover can be costly.
“Having a personal guarantee in place can make a huge difference in protecting your investment,” Rossman explains. “It gives landlords peace of mind and ensures that tenants have some skin in the game. At Bryan Industrial Properties, we make sure that our lease agreements include these provisions to mitigate risk and protect our assets.”
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